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"El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First!" (lightningzone) 01/07/2016 at 18:02 • Filed to: None

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I think it’s a bit ironic that Ford and GM offer compact hatchbacks, a type of car notoriously popular in the EU, and FCA, a company that’s part European, doesn’t.

Berang > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/07/2016 at 18:05

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? doesn’t count?

Cé hé sin > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/07/2016 at 18:06

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Fiat do, but not everywhere. Without that much commercial success it must be said.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/07/2016 at 18:07

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Woah woah woah. Stop. Back up.

The Cruze hatch is come to NA?

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Berang 01/07/2016 at 18:07

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Too small. Compact hatchbacks are usually C segment, not A.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 01/07/2016 at 18:11

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Of course, where would they sell it, since the Chevrolet brand was withdrawn from Europe? The BRICS group? Lol.

CB > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/07/2016 at 18:11

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I really really like the look of the Cruze hatch. Looks better than the Focus in my eyes.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > CB 01/07/2016 at 18:15

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Obviously. One is brand new, the other is past its middle age and expects a replacement in the next couple of years.

CB > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/07/2016 at 18:16

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I think that’s a fallacious way of thinking. There are plenty of brand new cars that look abysmal, and older cars that still look fantastic.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Cé hé sin 01/07/2016 at 18:16

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Chrysler or Dodge need a compact hatchback.

Cé hé sin > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/07/2016 at 18:32

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Here you go.

Fiat Tipo/Aegea. This one’s the four door Aegea, there’s a hatch as well.

Brian, The Life of > CB 01/07/2016 at 18:38

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Cruze looks good ... Focus come in ST and (drooling) RS options.

Focus wins.

CB > Brian, The Life of 01/07/2016 at 18:40

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To be fair, the Focus didn’t come in ST or RS trims right away. So there’s still room to grow.

Besides, if I’m shopping sub-$30k CAD, the fact that a model has more powerful trims really doesn’t mean anything.

Svend > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/07/2016 at 19:02

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Well the FCA don’t really have much in the way of a compact hatch other than the Fiat Grande Punto.

Ford and GM have a wealth of cars to offer up which although are American companies were designed, engineered and made for other markets and only later offered to the U.S. Market.

The U.S. Got the Astra for ONE year while Europe is several generations old.

The U.S. Only got the Mk1 Focus and the present day one while Europe had the Mk2 and Mk2.5.

Ford and GM could easily run the FCA out of town if they imported the Ford Fiesta 3 door, Ecosport, B-Max, C-Max, Focus estate, GM with the Corsa 3/5 door, Astra 3/5/5 door estate, Insignia estate.

Brian, The Life of > CB 01/07/2016 at 19:05

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If Chevy builds a 300+ HP AWD Cruise ever , I’ll eat my hat.

CB > Brian, The Life of 01/07/2016 at 19:15

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A man can dream.

Brian, The Life of > CB 01/07/2016 at 19:23

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#keephopealive

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/07/2016 at 21:03

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Asia. That’s where the last Cruze hatch was sold.

Anyway, awesome.

The Crazy Kanuck; RIP Oppositelock > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 01/08/2016 at 00:27

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Even with a 1.6L diesel.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer 01/08/2016 at 05:51

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That’s true, but it was designed in Australia and developed in Korea and Europe. It was designed with Europe in mind, back when GM still believed that it can make Chevy a success in the EU.

They even made a wagon.

El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! > Svend 01/08/2016 at 06:09

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According to European reviewers, the Ford Ecosport is the worst Ford.

And come on, it’s hard enough to get the typical American buyers( especially those who don’t live in large cities) interested in normal hatchbacks. Do you think they will jump on weird 3 doors, small minivans or wagons?

Svend > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/08/2016 at 06:35

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Personally I think it would be a breathe of fresh air for them and offer a larger line up for the smaller class segment.

Granted yes the Ecosport isn’t great but by and large the greatest downfall of it is the engine, it needs a bit more power and better economy but engines are changing all the time.

and 100 more > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/08/2016 at 16:48

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If you blur the line between “hatchback” and “crossover”, then Jeep Cherokee?

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > El Relámpago(LZone) - Humanity First! 01/10/2016 at 02:57

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Not sure whether it’s actually true, but I don’t believe that Fiat has a design that could compete as yet. If not in technical ability, in brand awareness.

They’ve probably got their hands (and finances) full with the revival of Alfa and Maserati...